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Speech by Jack Blaney24th September, 2004 :
Vancouver (Internal)
Transcript of address to the Union of BC
Municipalities (UBCM)
by Jack Blaney, Chair, Citizens'
Assembly
(Note: Speech delivered from rough notes, not prepared text) Thank you very much. I’m very honoured to be
here. I’m honoured to be here to represent
160 absolutely, extraordinary British Columbians.
Let me tell you what the Government of British Columbia has done
and what a bi-partisan, unanimous vote in the Legislature has
done. They invited 160 British Columbians –
ordinary British Columbians, they called them. And, by
virtue of the way they have selected these British Columbians, by
virtue of the independence which they gave these British
Columbians, by virtue of the very important task which they gave
these British Columbians, and by virtue of giving them an enormous
amount of power – by giving these British Columbians
the power, if they so decide, to make a recommendation directly to
all British Columbians. By doing all those things, these 160
British Columbians feel a great sense of responsibility to all
British Columbia. They have become the most extraordinary British
Columbians the government could have created. I am so proud to work
with each and every one of them.
I’m also very pleased to be here at UBCM. All my
family’s life and all my life, we have worked with
local government. I remember my time as Chair of the Fraser Basin
Council, with the social, economic and environmental problems we
faced, the solutions always began and ended with working with local
government. Other levels of government – their support,
of course, is very important. But it’s at
the local level where things really get done. So
I’m very, very pleased to be here and to be part of
your convention.
As you probably know, it is in cities that democracy
began. Twenty five hundred years ago, not only in
Athens but in several cities around Athens and also a city in Italy
– that is where democracy began. It was
practiced much differently than it is now – but the
beginnings were there. Over many
centuries—with many ups and downs city-based democracy
transformed to representative democracy—democracy that
could take in a full country, and not just a city.
But it was just in the last couple of hundred years that
democracy as we know it has been formed – particularly
in the last one hundred years. You probably know that
it’s only since the early 1900s that we gave women a
vote. And it was only in the middle 1900s that many minorities got
a vote in our country and in many other western countries. So we
are still working with democracy and democracy is evolving. Thank
goodness it is, otherwise it would decay.
Just recently there has been a very major study about whether
democracies are, again, being transformed. It is called
Democracy Transformed, a study which was completed last year by
scholars from all around the world, and they’ve come to
several conclusions. One is that, throughout the world in every
democracy, there is growing skepticism about political parties and
about politicians. So, if you do hear any skepticism about
politicians and political parties in British Columbia, you may take
consolation in the fact that you’re not alone.
It’s a world-wide kind of phenomenon. There
is also a drop world-wide in voter turnout – voter
apathy – and, although some voting systems get a little
higher voter turnout than others, the decline is roughly the same
no matter where you are in a democracy.
But in the world of democracies there are some very interesting
and intriguing things happening. One is what we call
“advocacy democracy.” As
members of organizations, citizens are being engaged in the
democratic process more than they ever have, but not through
elections. Organizations like the UBCM, Fraser Basin
Council, Fraser Institute, associations of universities and
colleges, environmental associations and thousands and thousands of
like organizations – many of them actually supported by
governments – are working in partnerships with
governments all the time. And many have a major impact
on government policy. This activity has grown
exponentially, especially in the past twenty to thirty
years. Some believe this to be a second major
transformation of democracy.
Citizens do want to be engaged. Enter into these
developments the Citizens’ Assembly on Electoral
Reform.
Right here in British Columbia, we are doing something that has
not been done anywhere else in the world. The
government of British Columbia – with full support of
the legislative assembly – has taken the initiative to
create a brand new tool in democratic governance. Nowhere in the
world has this been done, and all around the world this is getting
attention. Many of us with the Assembly are asked to
speak to groups throughout this continent and beyond.
As a matter of record – and this is not a political
point – a very large part of the credit for creating
the Assembly goes to the Premier of the province, Gordon Campbell.
And credit also goes to the two political parties in the
legislature, because they created the Assembly in a bi-partisan,
unanimous vote. I’m so pleased and proud
that it was British Columbia that created the Citizens’
Assembly on Electoral Reform.
When the Assembly began to meet in January, we had 160 members
and today we have 160 members of the Citizens’
Assembly. Their ages are from 19 to 80; two members
have taken leave, perhaps temporary leave. Their
spouses are not well, but we still have 160 members. Attendance at
the meetings is about 98%. This is a
Guinness-Book-of-Records kind of statistic. I have not
in my life belonged to an organization where there has been such
dedication and commitment. The Citizens’
Assembly meetings formally start at 8:30 in the morning, but at
8:10 many are in their seats. It’s quite
incredible, the dedication of these citizens.
Now this is all about electoral reform. The subject
of electoral reform is fascinating. We now have a
system of voting that is called “first past the
post”. You go into the voting booth and you
mark an X and the person that gets the most X’s wins.
This is what we do pretty well throughout North America, but most
democracies use different systems. There’s
system called Proportional Representation – where the
seats in the House more closely reflect the percentage of votes the
parties received. Then there is the Single Transferable
Vote, and the Alternative Vote. So there are quite a
number – there are five different families of voting
systems – which I’m not an expert in and
I’m not going to go into any detail.
This group more probably than most groups I would speak to knows
more about the different kind of voting systems. But
the fact that we’re dealing with electoral reform is
not unique. Five provinces are doing so: Prince Edward Island, New
Brunswick, Quebec, Ontario and the Yukon. As a matter of fact as we
speak today, Ken Carty, who is our Chief Research Officer, is in
New Brunswick telling them in detail about the
Citizens’ Assembly. The subject matter is
not unique. What is unique is the process. Nowhere is anybody
looking at electoral reform, or for that matter any important
public policy question, the way we are doing it here in BC.
First of all, it is not being looked at by experts.
It is not being looked at by politicians. It is being
looked at by voters. Imagine that, asking voters to
review the electoral system. But it’s more than that.
It’s not just that the voters are being asked to look
at it, the voters have real power. When they make a decision, it is
their decision. That is, they are not making a report that goes to
the legislature for revision, for modification, for filtering, nor
to sit on a shelf. Indeed, if the Assembly in the end –
and it hasn’t made a decision yet – but if
they decide that there ought to be a different voting system and
they want to make that recommendation, the recommendation goes
directly to the people of British Columbia in a referendum. This is
what makes this so profoundly unique. This is what makes this a
very bold, courageous move on the part of the government of British
Columbia and the legislature of BC.
Our work has four phases and I’m going to quickly
get through them so that I can tell you
where we are in terms of our decisions. We began last fall, starting about right now, selecting two citizens from each of the 79 electoral area districts. This might have been, for me, in many ways, the most exciting part of the Citizens’ Assembly – going to Fort St. John, Prince George and Nanaimo and all these places and selecting members to sit on this brand new creation. People were absolutely delighted to serve. If there were more time I could spend a half hour alone to tell you about the emotions that were in those rooms, about people wanting to serve their province. They saw this as a unique, meaningful way to serve the province. We finally selected 160 people. Beginning last January, we spent six weekends spread over three
months in the Morris J. Wosk Centre for Dialogue learning about
different electoral systems. We learned about the Westminster
model, we learned about our current system and we learned about the
five families of voting systems. We also started to
learn about how we could effectively work together.
Then in May and June, we went on public hearings –
fifty public hearings throughout the province – four
hundred presentations at these public hearings. And, again, in
almost every place in the province, we had a hearing. We started
with fewer locations, but more places wanted hearings, so we
established more hearings.
At the same time, we had over 1,500 written
submissions. Let me tell you very briefly what these
presentations and submissions said. There should be no
surprise. These submissions and presentations said that
there should be change. There should be change in the
voting system. 90% suggested change.
That’s not surprising. When you want
change, you go to the meeting, you make a presentation.
If you don’t want change, quite often you sit home, you
don’t make a presentation. Most
presentations recommended something like the Mixed Member
Proportional type of system; also the Single Transferable
Vote. Some submissions wanted us to abolish the
Queen. Others wanted us to abolish taxes.
Essentially the overwhelming mood was for change.
However, presentations and submissions are not the only basis on
which the members will consider whether or not they will recommend
change. They have read; they have talked to their
neighbours; they have had very, very good instruction from two
eminent political scientists. Then, based on their own
values, the presentations and from talking to other members
– but essentially on their own values –
they’ll make a decision.
Last weekend, the last weekend we met, the members indicated
three preferences. The first time I think that we got
an inkling as to where they might be. The three preferences were
for the following:
1. First, some element of local representation. They wanted to ensure that by some means or other – these are not exactly defined – but they want local representation. They like having a local candidate. 2. Second, to some extent they want vote share to translate more directly into seat share. They want seats to mirror a little better than now the preferences of the voters. 3. And, third, they want as much voter choice as possible. More choice than just an X on the ballot. They want more choice than that. These are the decisions that members will make over the next
month. First of all, we’re going to review
the preferences of last weekend. We’re
going to spend as long on that as we need to do. What
about local representation? Is this important and how
important? What about some sense of
proportionality? What about voter choice?
Are these the fundamental values upon which you make your
subsequent decisions? This may take an hour, this may
take three hours but we certainly want to be very clear and
we’re going to do this in one large session;
we’re going to do this in plenary session.
The answers to those questions create the foundation for everything
else we do.
Thereafter, this is how it’s going to
go. We’re going to choose two electoral
systems that reflect those values. For example, it
could be Alternative Voting, Mixed Member Proportional, Single
Transferable Vote or whatever. Let’s say
Option A and Option B. We’re going to
choose two electoral systems – the contenders for the
championship. The champion is, of course, the current
system. Two contenders, then.
We’re going to take Option A and we’re all
going to work on it and make it the best Option A possible for
British Columbia. Then we’re going to park
that. Then we’re going to take Option B,
and together we’re going to work on Option B, and
we’re going to make the best possible Option B for
British Columbia. Then we’re going to bring
them together, A and B. Which best serves British
Columbia? Indeed we might even decide then, that we
want to take a little bit from A and kind of attach it to B
– some integration there.
In the end we will choose one of those options to be the
contender, to be the possible alternative electoral voting
system. After we have done that we are then going to
revisit what I call, or what a member calls, the reigning
champion. The reigning champion is First Past the
Post. We’re going to review it.
Again, look at its merits, look at its strengths and look at some
of its drawbacks. Give it a really fair
shot. It’s very, very important that we
give that a fair shot. We then will take a look at the
contender in the same way. What are its
strengths? What are the weaknesses? Then
we’ll compare the two; here’s the champion,
here’s the competitor. The decision on
October 23-24 will be, “Does the champion stay, or do
we recommend a change?” If we say the
champion has had its time, then we will recommend the
alternative. We will recommend the
contender. That will be done October 23-24.
That is the means by which we will make our decisions.
We then will revisit the other part of our mandate.
What are the full implications of this decision? And,
of course, we will have lots of wording matters in our final report
– a final report which will also have some commentary
on some other things that we have learned that are of concern to
members and our citizens.
Again I will tell you that nothing is decided until everything
is decided. Nothing is decided until October 23-24 when
we look at the current system and the main contender.
Nothing will be decided until the conclusion of that
weekend. Indeed we might even postpone it one weekend,
but I don’t think so. Time is tight and I
think the members are ready.
So far this process has been absolutely
mind-boggling. It has worked so beautifully
well. I’m just hoping – we all
hope – that it continues. I
don’t know what the decision is going to
be. I truly do not know what the decision is going to
be – and, if I did, I wouldn’t tell my best
friend. I really don’t know what the
decision is going to be, but the process has been phenomenal.
I have not seen 160 people – or any group of people
of that size – work so well. I used to work
in a University. Do you think 160 faculty members would
have such self-discipline over the course of a whole
year? This is absolutely phenomenal. And
‘self-discipline’ I mean in the most
positive sense. The dedication, the commitment, the
mutual respect, the hours they put in –
it’s just unbelievable.
So why has this been the case? Listen, British
Columbia created this, it is unique, and it will not be just a
footnote in history. In the histories of democracies,
this will not be a footnote. This will be something
very, very important.
There are three major reasons why this has gone so well
– and I think it will continue to go well.
I have eight all together, but I’m only going to give
you three.
One is the random invitation. The make-up mirrors
BC. We have the courier drivers; we have the dentists;
etc. It mirrors BC. Secondly, by the random
invitation, people are not representatives of
organizations. They do not represent anybody but
themselves and the Assembly and, at large, British
Columbia. They don’t represent an
association or an organization. Therefore it is
non-partisan.
The second reason why I believe it has worked so well is the
self-selection. In each electoral district, for every
200 people first contacted, on average 12 came to a selection
meeting. They read all the material, and they came
forward with a very strong commitment to community.
Whether they are courier drivers or dentists, they all have
something in common. They all have participated big
time in their community.
And the third reason why this has been so phenomenally
successful to this point is that real power has been given to the
Assembly. It’s independent from
government. It’s not there just for
consultation. If members do make a recommendation for
change, it will go to a referendum. One of the main
creators of the Assembly put it this way. He said
“Jack, what’s important here is the power
of the idea of the Assembly. It’s the power
of the idea”. It’s this power
of the idea that increased members’ strng sense of
importance and responsibility. They feel so responsible
for what they are doing.
I have other reasons that I’m not going to mention,
because it would take me another five or ten minutes.
But, I’ll give you the very last of eight
reasons. That is gender balance. We have 80
female members, 80 male members. Every member, male and
female, is so proud of gender balance.
So British Columbians, members of UBCM, this is a great
experiment in democracy.
My one last concluding comment … I am so pleased
that this innovation which will be part of history was made,
created, crafted in great British Columbia.
Thank you very much.
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