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News release - Vancouver public hearing12th June, 2004 :
Vancouver (Internal)
Assembly cautioned to consider costs
Sixteen presenters offered members of the Citizens’
Assembly on Electoral Reform sixteen unique proposals at the
Assembly’s 37th public hearing in Vancouver Saturday.
Thirteen more hearings are slated.
Next week, hearings move to the Interior – Princeton
(Monday), Merritt (Tuesday), Lillooet (Wednesday), Kamloops
(Thursday) and Williams Lake (Saturday). Ganges, on
Salt Spring Island, will also host a hearing next
Saturday. A full schedule of hearings is on the
Assembly’s website at Many speakers at the Vancouver hearing promoted a variety of
proportional models, while others offered specific cautions related
to proportional representation.
Jason Clemens, of the Fraser Institute, warned the Assembly that
proportional electoral systems “are far more likely to
be characterized by coalition and minority governments”
in which small parties can wield disproportionate
power. Coalition governments tend to result in
“larger government sectors characterized by increased
spending” and increased taxation, he said citing
academic studies.
Clemens urged the Assembly, if it recommends a proportional
electoral system, to also recommend tax and spending limitations on
government, specifically Tax and Expenditure Limitation laws.
Others also took a cautious approach to
proportionality.
“Given the present political and cultural make-up of
the British Columbia electorate,” said Dave Park
representing the Vancouver Board of Trade, “having an
electoral system with more than (a) relatively small proportional
component … would likely lead to political and economic
instability that would be detrimental to the
province.” He recommended no
more than 25 per cent of the legislature be elected by proportional
representation.
“The electoral system is not a cure-all; it will not
solve all the problems of our democracy,” stated Neil
Sutherland. He explained how the benefits of
proportionality could be achieved through a simple adjustment to
the existing plurality (or first-past-the-post) system.
By having two or more MLAs elected from most riding, he said, the
drawbacks of plurality would be eliminated and the benefits of
proportionality obtained.
However, supporters of proportionality were well represented.
Saying minor parties and minority voices are disadvantaged under
the current system, William Lim advocated a mix of a proportional
electoral system in urban areas and a majority system in rural
areas.
Roy Grinshpan said he “liked many aspects of our
current first-past-the-post system,” so wanted
“to enhance it not replace it”.
He suggested a mixed system which would enhance the existing system
by allowing one-third of the seats to be allocated to achieve
proportionality. Grinshpan also advised the Assembly to ensure
its’ recommended system succeed, should there be a
referendum, by keeping it simple.
Other proponents of various mixed member proportional (MMP)
systems included Mebrat Kebede, Reimar Kroecher, Alex Tunner,
Matthew Laird (leader of the Moderate Democratic Movement and
cofounder of RecallBC), Bruce Krayenhoff, Robert Everton and Nancy
Klenavic (representing West Coast Environmental Law).
A different system for achieving proportionality was also well
represented. Garry Nixon explained the Irish single
transferable vote (STV) system which – allows voters to
rank candidates in multi-member ridings and reduces party
control. He said STV “ensures minority
representation … makes gerrymandering much more
difficult … (and) provides stability.”
Mark Latham, a financial economist and expert in corporate
voting, agreed with Nixon. “One advantage
of a single transferable vote (STV) system over a mixed member
proportional (MMP) system is that STV does not build in a dominant
role for political parties, whereas MMP is defined in terms of
political parties.”
Like Nixon and Latham, Arpal Dosanjh advocated the use of a
preferential ballot – which allows voters to rank
candidates – but with a major difference.
Rather than a proportional system, Dosanjh advocated the majority
electoral system which was used in BC in the 1952 and 1953
provincial elections. This system is similar to our
current system but demands MLAs achieve over 50 per cent of the
vote in their riding to be elected.
Vancouver City Councillor Sam Sullivan told
Citizens’ Assembly members “I’m
jealous of your process”. Saying his
proposal would enhance any electoral system, Sullivan recommended
that, prior to each election, all politicians and parties be
subject to a rigorous review by a similar citizens’
assembly which would evaluate their credentials, platforms and
promises. This body would then report to the
electorate, providing citizens with the carefully considered
research and conclusions voters seldom have the time to undertake
for themselves.
Other ideas raised included:
The Citizens’ Assembly is an independent,
representative, non-partisan group of 160 randomly selected British
Columbians. They must decide by December 15 whether to propose a
change to BC’s electoral system. If they recommend a
change, it will be the subject of a referendum for all voters in
the May 2005 provincial election.
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